Red Tails, G. Lucas' Latest Film

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  1. Dec 27, 2011 #21

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    They were on your post just now. I sign in and their gone. Dennis
     
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    They are randomly generated adds that Austin's new set up is set on, to show on the screens for lurkers who are not signed on. Everytime someone clicks on an add, free money for the owners. So, when I see that on sites that I enjoy, I sometimes click on them, scoot right back, do it a couple times, just to help them out. I set up my own little rc website, I myself have not been on it for quite a while, not too many members, but it's my back up, if I ever piss Pat off enough that he cans my a$$ on here, I have another little playground, LoL.
     
  3. Dec 27, 2011 #23

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    You know I understand you much too well to let you get off that easy;)
     
  4. Dec 27, 2011 #24

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    LoL, You know, even if you canned me, I'd send out an invite so you could sign up. Looking for mods.....
     
  5. Jan 2, 2012 #25

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    This is so wrong on so many levels...
     

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    Yeah, well what do you want... them to do actual research ?
    The only times a -51 could hang with a Me-262 was when he supprised one or when the -262 had his gear down.
     
  7. Jan 2, 2012 #27

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    if i remember my history right the first 262 in flight kill was made by a p 51
     
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    I heard a story from an old timer from ww2 that a P-47 was the first prop fighter to shoot down a ME-262.

    Steve
     
  9. Jan 2, 2012 #29

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    The 47, 51, and 38 have all been credited with shooting down 262's. In just about every instance that occurred when the prop driven fighter was in a dive. Other instances occurred after the 262 was in a glide back to the ground after running out of fuel. They weren't as fast once the engine died.
     
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    I wonder if the sequel will be called "Yellow Tails" Oh my.... LOL!
     
  11. Jan 2, 2012 #31

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    Once you get past all their fluff and start to look at the nuts and bolts of the film there are some obvious mistakes with little research done concerning the German squadron emblems and colour schemes which make my eyes bleed. There is no excuse in this day and age especially with their budget for colour schemes and markings looking as bad as displayed in this clip. Bright yellow noses on Me 262 fighters, WTF???

    Udet squadron emblems? LMFAO!
     

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    Well thats one way ,but most likly is when the-262 was in the landing pattern , those early jet engines didn't spool up very fast and were easy pickin's. There were groups of -109s and -190s that were tasked with protecting the -262s around the bases before they could get there speed up.
     
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    I just don't understand why they do this. A couple of hours chatting with your friendly neighborhood IPMS noob would have saved this.
     
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    I also think there are also markings on the B-17s that were out of England,... The Red Tails flew out of the M.T.O.,I know there were around Carl a lot.
    It's a shame.
     
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    New to aviation, or just a stickler for cinema accuracy? Hopefully you didn't get to watch Top Gun when it first came out. A good many people were laughing their butts off in theaters. Most aviation movies have glaring innaccuracies, and the lower the budget the more notable those can be. I watch movies today that are depicting UAV's, naval vessels, and warfare in the various sandbox locations and just about pass out from the errors but the story is still worth seeing or at least entertaining.

    How about all those "shoot 'em up" flicks where only the bad guys have to reload and the good guys can avoid a wall of full auto fire while always picking off their multiple opponents with a semi auto 45?

    The next question is how some inconsistencies might impact the overall theme and purpose of a film. I try to view a film for the intended content and look beyond topical stuff. Basically not sweating the petty stuff. If the intentions were pure I can live with some small errors. I don't believe the movie was intended to be a museum quality representation.
     
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    Yea... At least they made the tails on the P-51's red. Good enough I guess.
     
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    Gotta play to your intended audience.
     
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    Just watched the trailer and it looks like this film will be good for entertainment purposes. Not so much for historical accuracy. We'll see. At least they do specify that it is "inspired by true events" Just unfortunate that many people will take this fiction for fact.
     
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    Yeah, but if your gona do a tome on fighting heros at least you should accurately deal with who they were fighting, who they were protecting and where they were doing it. And what does that farce "Top Gun" have to do with anything?
     
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    Unfortunately most of recent "documentary" movie making has been subjected to gross inaccuracies in various areas. So how history text books and the general news media. From an entertainment standpoint I believe the right people will get credit over due. Accurate documentation is another matter altogether.

    Just a thought, but I don't know what the average movie costs to produce but it's quite possible some lattitude was taken to stretch the distance 95 million dollars of personal revenue would travel. Most films have budgets drawn from multiple investment sources, not a personal bank account. I'm pleased we have any flying films at all being released for viewing. Normally it's love story or some focus on a given aspect of social engineering.

    If people are terribly outraged I'll suggest they stay home and don't watch the movie.
     

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