What was said in the first post is fine by me. The biggest problem I see is newbies always want the fancy, coolest aerobatic plane, warbird or scale plane of their choice to be their first to learn on OR some hagged out, used up, worn out setup that barely works anymore if at all and takes a lot of work/frustration just to get it in the air. Once in the air it barely flies worth a damn and constantly craps out in the air. If you get them to get past the stubborn attitude that comes along with the disappointment or anger that is associated with one extreme or the other it usually works out ok for them later on. Once the newbie realizes and accepts they have to start with an ugly trainer style plane it then comes together.